Elmhurst Ave. and Broadway—a crowded and vibrant crossroad in Elmhurst Queens, New York. The area is heavily Asian populated, surrounded by a few Morning Glory stores, Vietnamese restaurants, and Chinese supermarkets. Down a couple of blocks is the isolated-looking I.S. 173, while the opposite way leads to the ghetto 7-train station. Engulfing the central portion of the area is Broadway Park, an average park with its basketball courts, handball courts, and small children’s playground. But despite the highly Asian-oriented surroundings, inside Broadway Park lies the large “melting pot” that New York City is known for. A few Chinese and black kids are playing a hard game of b-ball, some Korean and Spanish kids are running frantically as they try to keep up with their blue handball, but high up on the steps leading to the playground sit some lyricists talking about battles and some new hip-hop songs. Elmhurst may look like a simple middle-class neighborhood, but it’s perfect for any open-minded and innovative lyricist. This neighborhood, from the small Morning Glory to the deteriorating 7-train up on Roosevelt Ave., is the hometown of Drunken Tiger’s DJ Shine.
DJ Shine is one of the very few hip hop artists who brings a unique New York flavor to the Korean media. While many other artists claim to be the “realest” New York MC in the media, DJ Shine outweighs all these artists, having the experience and upbringing necessary to truly claim that title. Despite the success and hype surrounding him and his co-member, Tiger JK, the man still remains a mystery to the public. We know him as the former DJ Mr. E, the New York native, the lively leader figure of Drunken Tiger, but the question is who is he really? What does he have to say about himself and his group? So much speculation surrounds his past and what compelled him to become who he is now. With Drunken Tiger’s 4th album right around the corner, the highly respected artist sacrifices some time to speak to the public about himself, his group, and his upcoming anticipated album.
The
following interview occurred during a private internet exchange.
Part 1- DJ Shine: Uncut
Camp: First off, what's the meaning behind the name "DJ
Shine" and how did it come about?
Shine: The DJ name I went by was DJ MRe. I
was pretty mysterious, being a Korean DJ and all in a very black culture at the
time. Throughout the years I was known as that DJ, as time went by my name
started popping out in the scene and my doggs would clown me and say I wasn't
mysterious at all, and always told me I was shining like the sun. When I
wanted to start over as a MC, the name stuck with me, but I didn't want to lose
my DJ roots and what it had taught me about the game.
Camp: When did you start DJing?
Shine: I've been Djing since I was 14 years old,
back in the day I started with a huge vintage mixer that partially worked with
two turntables, a belt drive... which was very crappy but did the job.
Camp: What inspired you to start?
Shine: Definitely the culture was a major impact.
95% of the Asians were into new wave music; I just fell into the 5% that liked
hip-hop and other shit.
Camp: And you were named top DJ in NY and Chicago?
Shine: That shit's over exaggerated. I don't know
who the fuck started that rumor but thanks anyways :P But I was one of the very,
very few Korean/Asian DJ's that wasn't scared to rip shit up.
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Camp:
When did you actually start rapping? Shine: I've been into music all my life, reciting lines from Michael to Whoudini. It just stuck with me through the following years. I would jump into ciphers and just start flowing about bullshit. People's looked at me like I was crazy ‘cause I sucked so bad, but I didn't give a fuck! Peeps gave me props anyways ‘cause I had balls and wouldn't go down without a fight. There were never any Asians in the circles back then. I just wanted to have fun, I was always curious. I always had pride! Camp: Who were your favorite rappers back when you were growing up? Who are your favorite rappers as of now? Shine: RunDMC, Beastie Boys, Doug'E Fresh, Fat Boys, LL, and the list goes on... Wu-tang was a big influence, playing pool with Nas, and Search in Jackson Heights was always riding on my mind. B.I.G greatest of all time, Roots, Comman, too much to list... all the MC's who got heart and meaning behind their shit! Camp: When and how did you and Tiger JK meet? Shine: It was around 91-92. My boy left NY and moved to LA. I went out there and we would hit up the hip-hop joints when I would see only one other Asian cat at that time. I was like “word, good to see another brotha at these kinds of spots.” He knew my homie by face, and after finding out we were both Korean, we just became instant doggs. Camp: At what point did you and JK decide to become Drunken
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Camp: In the past, you've mentioned how you were starting a
hip-hop clothing label called "RILL" clothing. Are you still
working on that?
Shine: Always working on it! The
industry fucks you up so bad, you really tend to suffer in the inside.
I wish interviews were enough to shed the light on how everything
revolves around the artist, but that shit's
just a vivid summary. Our company pretty much owns all the rights
to our shit. I'll leave it at that for
now.
Camp: You've been in the rap game for a while now. Do you have any bigger
vision than being an artist? Where do you see yourself, DT, and the movement
crew in the next few years?
Shine: Yo, I'm just doing my shit, JK, is the true
artist. I like the simple things in life. My biggest vision is
to provide for my family. Being a family man, the heart that beats my life, the
reason I live for. I don't want to think too ahead of time but I think the world
is a huge classroom that we are all learning
from. Some just seem to excel more at a quicker pace than others do, but
we all GOD's. There's still a lot of things I want to show myself and
others about the side of DJShine, but sometimes words just aren't enough to
express it. I'm just gonna live my life, the movement will always be
there, we always going to take our time to make shit tite as possible. Me,
personally, I'm just gonna do what I'm doing ‘til I don't feel like doing it
anymore. It wouldn't matter what the reason's are, whether good or bad, if
I feel like no more, then that's it.
Part 2- Drunken Tiger: Past, Present, Future
| Camp: What should fans expect from your 4th album? Shine: vinyl medicine... Camp: In the past, DT albums have been the place for some underground artists to debut (I.E. CBMass, Bobby Kim, Sean2Slow). Is there anyone new on DT4 that we should take note of? Shine: yeah, fob the rob, the illest MC in the world. Peep game ^^ Camp: Musically and lyrically, DT's albums improved tremendously and I'm sure there's some songs that didn't make it in your previous CDs. Do you have any songs that you liked but couldn't add on to your album? Shine: There's a lot of songs the company wouldn’t approve of which is always a constant battle. One track that DJJhig produced was hot hot hot, but the sample couldn’t clear. Camp: You and JK have gained quite an amount of experience in the production field. JK has worked diligently as a producer on T's past three albums, while the both of you have worked hard on MC K's debut album. So is Drunken Tiger still aching to make their own production label after you both have experienced how much work the field requires? Shine: We always trying to make Drunken Tiger as best as we can, pushing each other to the limit. However, there's still so much politics we have to break down, we can only express ourselves to a certain point. We battling all the time to break that. JK, as a producer, has improved drastically. Micki eyes has found his own style, DjJhig with his raw talent. I think my only problem is I make too many beats that I like, you know simple dark loops. That’s my shit!!!
Camp: Besides DT4, two of DT's members are expected to drop solo albums.
Can you evaluate on DJ Jhig and Micki Eyes' solos? What will their solos be
like? When are they scheduled to drop? |
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Camp: Other Korean rappers have featured big American rappers on their
albums. Jinusean 3 featured Cypress
Hill and Mobb Deep, while DVS's first album featured XZIBIT. Will DT do
something similar to
this in future albums?
Shine: Even before our first album dropped, we
had bigger named artist that wanted to feature for DT. A lot of big named
underground heads, DJ's from Honda to lethal, crazy town, lazy bone, Krs-one and
so on... we felt that the environment to have these artist were greatly
unappreciative. We wanted meaning with featured artist, not to sell more
albums. For instance when we did a show with PMD Korean cats were giving
no love, we were so heated that we had to explain that he was a major impact in
development of hip hop that they should show there love, then they started
cheering. What the fuck is that? But I know we all still leering and until
it gets to the point where it matches for us and the other artist that's what
we'll do. These cats don't even want money from us, they feel our music, they do
it strictly for what Drunken Tiger stands for, they do it for hip hop and that's
respect.
Part 3- The Korean Music Industry
Camp: When Drunken Tiger first came out, the Korean music industry
didn’t easily accept rappers and often tried to limit their existence. The few
rappers that were out (I.E. DjDoc, YG Family) were limited to performing tame or
dancy hip-hop. Because of this, you guys had a really hard time taking off at
first, but when you did, suddenly the whole view on hip-hop changed. Hip-hop
suddenly became darker and rappers emerged from left and right. Do you feel that
Drunken Tiger is partially responsible for this new Korean hip-hop movement?
Shine: If I say we didn't have anything to do with
this, then I'm a liar, and if I say we did, then I'm conceited. Let the people
decide. Fuck it, Koreans love to gossip.
Camp: Where do you think Korean hip-hop is going? Is it just another
trend just like the whole boy band era of the 90's?
Shine: Naw, hip-hop is like a good plague: "As
the world turns I spread like germ"- Method man. But there are still
ignorant fucks trying to take advantage of shit real artists built up and try to
jack shit and make it into something it's not, like fucking vultures. I
got 2 words: "FUCK EM."
Camp: What are your thoughts on the growing amount of Korean rappers in the
industry? Are there any new artists that you particularly favor?
Shine: I love it. I want more and more. Just
represent the real and you on my list. A lot of Korean/Asian cats holding
the fort in America who know what the fuck they’re doing even though they
against the odds just like us. Ya’ll get big ups! To all the busters who fakin
like folex, you ain’t got heart. Your stupidity will prevail, dumbass!
Camp: Drunken Tiger is one of
the few Korean artists who have fans from diverse White, Black, Indian, who are
located anywhere from Australia to the United States. Only the best Korean
artists can earn such an enormous amount of respect. What are your thoughts on
this?
Shine: Word... Do you know the meanings of
GOD's R US? You got love for us, we hit you back 10 times more!
Part 4- Commentaries on Other Artists: The Movement, Joosuc, Jin,
Snacky, YG
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Camp:
"The Movement" originally started as a small hip-hop collaboration
consisting of Drunken Tiger, Kim JinPyo, CBMass, and T. Since then,
"The Movement" has expanded at an expedient rate. As of now, who is
part of "The Movement?" Camp:
Insane Deegie, solo rapper and member of "The Movement" crew, just
recently retired from the biz. How do you feel about it? Camp: Asian rappers are starting to blow up in the States as well,
particularly Jin tha MC. What are your thoughts on him? Camp: What do you think about Snacky Chan's and Yang HyunSuk's recent
derogatory comments concerning Drunken Tiger? |
Part 5- Final Thoughts
Camp: Are there any last words you want to say to your fans?
Shine: To all the peoples who know the meaning of
DJShine and what he stands for, I can't express how much that means to me.
I'm not your everyday street poet. I might not have flows you can relate to or
like, but you guys stuck with me through good and bad and it will never be
forgotten. Drunken Tiger, people's people!
Camp: Last, but definitely not least, any last comments you want to
make about Drunken Camp (http://drunkenstylez.cjb.net)?
Shine: HAHA! Ya’ll heart! Drunken soldiers!
You guys get under appreciated, but you got my loyalty and that shit is better
than life itself. Word is bond!
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